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I found a phone.

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It looks like it's from 1967, but I think it will work.

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Just a second, Jimmy.

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Excellent. Thank you for being so careful.

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-Sir, we have to get in your attic. -For what?

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The hookup.

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-That's all right. Don't bother. -It won't take 20 minutes.

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-You can't use it if I don't do it. -No, it's all right. We're not gonna.

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When you're done, would you get some more lamps in the garage?

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Thanks.

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-So you got a phone. -Yeah.

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Yard's half-mowed. Sockets and stuff are looking A-okay.

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I'm gonna check again just to make sure.

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-We're almost there. -Good, good. Um....

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What do you think? On? Off?

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Oh. I think off.

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Yeah. You're right.

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Off, it is.

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Chuck, are you sure this is the right play?

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I mean, in my experience...

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...the bigger the lie, the harder it can be to dig out.

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I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

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JIMMY: Hey, guys, think we're set with the lamps.

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Can someone give me a hand with this phone?

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Mm.

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[PEOPLE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]

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[KNOCKING ON DOOR]

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It's open.

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Rebecca.

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-Chuck. CHUCK: You look lovely.

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-Oh, it's so good to see you. -And you.

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-You look.... -Hey, what's with the candles?

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-Why are you sitting in the dark? -Wondering the same thing.

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Oh, my God. The afternoon I've had.

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Two hours ago, I take the sea bass out.

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No sooner is it prepped and resting then, boom...

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...power goes down.

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I get on the phone to the city.

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To make a long story short, those bozos at PNM mixed up my payment.

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The deadbeat at 512 San Cristobal hasn't been paying his bills.

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-And of course, I'm 215. -215.

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-Exactly. -Mm-hm. Mm.

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They say they'll have it on again by tomorrow.

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In the meantime, I borrowed some camping gear from my neighbors.

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Hence, the rustic flair.

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-Jeez. So, what do we do? -Oh, yeah.

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Get out and go to a restaurant?

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We could hit Seasons. Your treat.

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We could. Yeah.

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But, you know, dinner's almost ready. And the fish...

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...would've had to throw it out. All I do is toss it in the pan.

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How about we just rough it?

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-Are you okay with that? -Uh.... Um....

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Well...

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...why not? It'll be fun. We'll do an haute-cuisine campout.

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Great, then it's settled. Let me take that.

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-Take your coat. -Oh, yeah. Here. Thank you. Mm-hm.

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Mm.

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Oh, my God.

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I can't eat another bite.

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[CHUCKLING]

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Cheers.

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-To the Galloping Gourmet. -Mm.

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-Yeah. CHUCK: Ha, ha, ha.

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REBECCA: The Calvados is perfect. -You always liked it.

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Here. Uh, um....

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-Let me get this. -No, no.

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-You don't have to. -The least I can do is the dishes.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, Jimmy.

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This turned out better than I thought. Heh, heh.

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I'm so sorry about the lights.

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Oh, it's nice. Atmospheric.

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I mean, I still can't get over Jimmy being a lawyer.

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Neither can I. He's got his own shingle out and everything.

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I mean, a real, responsible citizen. I mean, who would've thought?

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[CHUCK CHUCKLES]

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This place is the same.

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I mean, I would've thought you'd...

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...change things up, move things around.

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You've got great taste, and if it ain't broke....

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-How's the tour going? -It's good.

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Good. The Far East this fall.

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China, South Korea and Vietnam. That's gonna be exciting.

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-Yeah. -And then, after Santa Fe this week...

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-...we're back to Central Europe. -And it's good?

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Well, it's a lot of hotels.

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I mean, in Budapest...

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...I think I saw mostly the inside of a concert hall and the Marriott.

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But, you know, I shouldn't complain.

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You're not complaining. You're observing.

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Did you finally get to see Salzburg?

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Not yet, but next month after Vienna.

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Do you remember when we tried to go to Salzburg?

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And that crazy old lady on the scooter...

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-Oh, yes. Yes. -...chased us out of the train station.

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REBECCA: Yeah, and then....

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And then we went and got--

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It was a raspberry Linzer torte in Innsbruck...

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...to make ourselves feel better.

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-You said, "We'll never finish this." -And then we did.

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[BOTH LAUGHING]

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CHUCK: So what's after Asia? Any plans for a stateside tour?

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Oh, you know, hopefully next year. You know, maybe a residency.

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That would be sweet.

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I mean, you know, I like the buses and trains and flying...

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...but I, um....

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I miss having one-- One place to hang my hat.

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[CELL PHONE RINGING]

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Oh, God.

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I'm sorry. I-- I hate that thing.

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I feel like I'm on a leash.

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[REBECCA GROANS]

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I'm sorry.

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[♪♪♪]

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Oh. Oh, it's my conductor. Um, I have to take this.

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I'm sorry.

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Hi, Andre.

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No, I'm just at dinner. What's up?

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Well, I could do that at rehearsal. Yeah, no problem. Yeah.

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No, I know that they're coming in late on bar 16.

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Yeah. Got it. Got it. I will make sure that....

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Can-- Can you hold on one second? Let me just get a pen.

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Mm-hm.

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Yeah, no, I-- I....

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Yeah, hold on one second.

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Yeah, we could do it whenever you need. Mm-hm.

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Okay. All right, shoot.

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Okay. Haydn.

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Okay....

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-Chuck. -I'm all right.

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Well, do you want me to rehearse the cellos separately?

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Rebecca. Rebecca.

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Just one minute.

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Well, no. It's not just him. It's the whole section, actually.

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JIMMY: Rebecca. -Yeah, yeah. No.

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That's fine. Yeah.

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Chuck, what the hell?

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Andre?

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I-- I'll have to call you back. I'm sorry.

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What is your problem?

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Say something.

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It is incredibly bad manners to answer a cell phone in company.

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It's very rude.

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Uh, I-- I'm sorry. I....

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I didn't know you felt that way.

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I didn't mean to offend you, Chuck.

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I-- I may have overreacted. That was very abrupt.

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No. I understand.

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Uh....

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It's getting late.

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Thank you for a lovely dinner, but I should be getting back to the hotel.

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JIMMY: Just give me a minute and we can--

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No. I'll just get a cab. I don't want to put you out anymore.

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-Please, let me. -No, really.

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A cab is the easiest.

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You gotta do something. You can't let her leave like this.

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-Just tell her what's going on. -No.

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She'll understand.

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Would you rather she think you're a raging prick than know the truth?

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No.

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Look, if you won't tell her, then I will.

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No, no, no. You will not tell her.

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You will not tell her.

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All right.

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Hi, Andre. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry about that. I dropped the phone.

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[♪♪♪]

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[DOGS BARKING]

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MAN: Jesus, what are you doing, man?

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There's barely any oxygen in that bag. You're suffocating her.

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Her?

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Just because you don't see swinging dicks...

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...doesn't mean you can't tell a boy fish from a girl fish.

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Oh, yeah. See. Now I can see the lipstick.

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This is a living creature.

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It's not a piece of furniture.

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So after this, you take her home, you put her in a big bowl.

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At least a gallon. Get a good bubbler.

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Maybe a plecostomus.

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And don't feed her too much. People get fat.

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-Fish, they drown in leftover food. -All right already, Jacques Cousteau.

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-Point made. -Good.

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I'm guessing our friend didn't refer you to me to get ichthyological advice.

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I'm looking for someone with a light touch.

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I'm not talking some teenager taking a five-finger discount of string cheese...

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...at the Stop & Shop. I need...

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...highly skilled, high-end, discreet.

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A real pro.

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You gotta fit him in a tight space?

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I don't think so.

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I got just the guy then.

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COMMISSIONER: That's what-- That's what happens. It was just a bad swing.

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It's gonna get better.

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That's why I say golfing is a contact sport.

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[LAUGHING]

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Great job, Ms. Wexler. Very refreshing.

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Believe me, we're happy to get this one off the docket.

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Not as happy as we are.

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-Again, great job. -Thank you. Thank you, sir.

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Ladies...

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...dinner's on me.

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Kim, I knew you were good, but I didn't know you were this good.

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-I'm glad you're happy. -We couldn't have done it without you...

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...and I hope you realize this means a whole lot of work coming your way.

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Well, that's-- That's great.

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Well, you don't sound like it's great.

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I hate to be a buzzkill. There is something you need to hear...

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...before we get any deeper in.

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It's about your former attorney...

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-...Charles McGill. -What about him?

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Charles has been making some very ugly allegations about his brother, Jimmy...

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...with whom I happen to share an office space.

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PAIGE: Allegations of what?

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Charles thinks Jimmy took control of your documents while working on them.

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He believes Jimmy transposed the address numbers.

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Transposed the numbers?

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How would he even do that?

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Charles contends Jimmy took documents pertaining to the Rosella branch...

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...and while Charles was indisposed...

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...photocopied and doctored them.

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That's pretty baroque.

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The important thing here is I think it could make some noise in public.

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Soon. I wanted to tell you this in the spirit of full disclosure.

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I thought it was better if you heard it from me.

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If you have any reservations at this point...

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...or if you are not comfortable staying with me, we can discuss options.

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If there's one thing I cannot abide...

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...it's a man who won't own up to his mistakes.

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Now whatever mud McGill is slinging is not gonna screw me out of the best...

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...outside counsel I've ever had.

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That's....

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-I'm so glad to hear that. -We appreciate the heads-up...

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...but you can call this baby put to bed. Now the most important thing, dinner.

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Seven good for you?

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-Works for me. -Great.

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We'll talk strategy.

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We move on to Colorado or Utah first.

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See you at 7.

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This McGill thing...

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...you're sure it's not gonna be a problem?

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I am.

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Mesa Verde isn't involved in any way, shape or form.

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Okay. Good.

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Then I'll see you tonight.

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Okay, great. See you then.

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[ELECTRICITY BUZZING]

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Okay, this is it.

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We can run without lights and mikes.

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We'll collect cell phones and hold them for your testimony.

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The court reporter...

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...would it be possible to move him or her farther from the witness stand?

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Yeah, I think we can arrange having them in the back of the court.

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I'm sorry. There's nothing I can do about the exit signs. It's code.

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I appreciate all you're doing. Thank you.

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Mr. Alley, I wonder if you'd give us a moment. I'd like to go over something.

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No problem. I'll be outside when you're ready.

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Howard.

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How are you feeling, Chuck?

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I'll muddle through.

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Because this is a lot to ask.

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And if you're not up to it, just throwing this out there.

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-Maybe you don't need to testify at all. -No. I do.

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I'm the only person who can adequately explain the context of that tape.

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Or the defense will tear it to shreds.

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It's already a solid case. We have Jimmy's statement...

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...from the Pre-Prosecution Diversion, my testimony and the private eye's.

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Maybe there's no need to put you through the ringer like this.

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This isn't about me...

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...or my health.

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This is about PR.

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We lost a client.

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That happened because while you were incapacitated...

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...your brother accessed documents that should have been secured at HHM.

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What Jimmy did is unconscionable, yes...

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...but one of my jobs is to safeguard the firm's reputation.

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This is not the time to worry about how we look.

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This is about what's right and what's wrong.

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I'm not gonna risk Jimmy getting, what, a year of suspension?

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Maybe two?

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He deserves disbarment.

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Not some slap on the wrist.

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No, Howard, there's only one way forward.

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"Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

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Sorry to keep you waiting. This will do nicely.

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Extend my thanks to the committee for their flexibility.

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ALLEY: Good morning. I'm Robert Alley for the State Bar.

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In the matter of James M. McGill...

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...the State Bar intends to prove the following violations of the ethical code:

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16-102: engaging in conduct the lawyer knows is criminal.

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Mr. McGill knew that breaking down his brother's door was criminal behavior.

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16-804: committing a criminal act...

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...that reflects adversely on the lawyer's honesty...

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...or trustworthiness as a lawyer.

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Any reasonable person would agree assaulting a lawyer...

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...in his own home reflects badly on Mr. McGill's fitness as an attorney.

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16-304: unlawfully altering, destroying...

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...or concealing material having potential evidentiary value.

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Mr. McGill broke into his brother's home and destroyed an audio cassette...

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...which contained a recording of a conversation between himself...

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...and his brother, Charles McGill.

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We will show this recording was evidence in an ongoing legal case.

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The State Bar believes that once we have presented the facts...

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...the committee will agree that disbarment is warranted for James McGill.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you, Mr. Alley.

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Ms. Wexler.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Good morning.

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I'm Kim Wexler, co-counsel with James McGill, for the defense.

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You've already read Mr. McGill's Pre-Prosecution Statement.

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We don't dispute he broke into his brother's house.

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An act he regrets...

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...deeply.

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But there is another side to this story.

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One not about calculation...

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...or ill intent.

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But about two brothers...

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...whose relationship after years of strain...

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...finally broke.

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We believe that after you have the complete picture...

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...you'll understand James McGill is an asset to our legal community.

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And he should remain a full member of it in good standing.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Wexler.

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Okay. If everyone's ready to...

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...begin testimony.

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Mr. Alley, call your witness.

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HOWARD: Bang, bang, bang. Then he kicked down the door.

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Jimmy was very agitated. He was shouting.

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He demanded Charles turn over the evidence he--

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Objection. We haven't established the tape is evidence of anything.

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The defense has only acknowledged it is a piece of property.

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Allow me to rephrase.

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Jimmy demanded an audio cassette in Charles' possession...

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...which Jimmy proceeded, with the help of an iron fireplace implement...

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...to pry from Charles' desk.

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He then broke the cassette into pieces and went on to confront his brother.

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What happened after the defendant smashed this tape?

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-Mr. Brightbill and I-- -That's the private investigator...

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-...that Charles hired? -That's correct.

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He and I were concerned that Jimmy might strike his brother.

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So that's when we stepped in.

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-Thank you, Mr. Hamlin. -Certainly.

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Nothing further at this time.

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CHAIRMAN: Ms. Wexler.

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KIM: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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[CLEARS THROAT]

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You testified you've known my client for some time.

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How long exactly?

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Nearly 10 years.

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How did you come to know him?

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His brother asked to hire him in the mail room at our firm.

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-And you did? -Yes.

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What was your opinion of him then?

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I thought...

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...he had a lot of get up and go.

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-He was a hard worker. -You had a nickname for him, didn't you?

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"Charlie Hustle."

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Charlie Hustle?

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How'd you feel when you found out he'd become a lawyer?

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Surprised. He had put himself through law school...

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...and taken the bar exam without telling any of the partners.

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Even Charles.

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He bootstrapped his way into a law degree while working in your mail room.

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Did you consider taking him on as an associate?

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We did.

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-Briefly. -Sounds like you didn't hire him.

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Why not? With that kind of grit?

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The partners decided it would be best to avoid the appearance of nepotism.

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We felt hiring Jimmy might damage morale.

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Nepotism.

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Your firm is Hamlin Hamlin & McGill, right?

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Who's the other Hamlin?

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My father.

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Which partner was the most concerned with nepotism?

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Charles McGill.

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-So Jimmy's own brother blocked him? ALLEY: Objection.

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How are the hiring practices of Hamlin Hamlin McGill relevant here?

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It's relevant to understand the relationship between these brothers.

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We'll give you some leeway, Ms. Wexler...

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...but don't stray. Charles McGill is not the subject of this hearing.

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Thank you.

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Did Jimmy know his brother was the one that prevented you from hiring him?

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HOWARD: No. He did not.

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Eventually, he was hired by the firm of Davis & Main.

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I'd be happy to say more about that if you'd like.

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No. Thank you.

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When Charles' condition appeared, Jimmy took care of him, didn't he?

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I believe so.

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Jimmy was struggling to build his solo law practice, yet every day, without fail...

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...he brought his brother food, supplies...

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...even his favorite newspapers. Isn't that right?

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He did.

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KIM: Could you speak to the terms of Charles' leave of absence?

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You know I can't.

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It was an FMLA leave.

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Anything more is confidential.

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You can confirm it was due to mental illness?

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Objection. Charles McGill's mental health isn't at issue.

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This is a smear job on the State Bar's upcoming witness. Nothing more.

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This is not a competency hearing.

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Mr. Hamlin is not a psychiatric professional.

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Do you have any questions that would be more germane to his experience?

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No.

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I have nothing further.

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CHAIRMAN: The witness is excused.

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At this time, the State Bar would like to enter Exhibit 5 into evidence.

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-We ask Charles' recording be played. -Respectfully renewing my objection.

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Probative value of playing this is outweighed by how prejudicial it is.

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All due respect, but the State Bar feels this is fundamental to hear.

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Don't wanna leave any question as to the intentions of both parties.

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We already ruled this was fair game when we denied your motion to suppress.

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I'll add, the rough and tumble of your client's conduct aside...

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...we need to know if one lawyer attempted to tamper...

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...with another's evidence.

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[WHISPERING] Come here.

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-What are you doing here? -[WHISPERING] Flight's delayed.

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How delayed?

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-Forty minutes, last I checked. -Shit.

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Okay. Keep me posted.

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[ALLEY SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]

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WOMAN: Here we go.

00:24:30

Thank you for your patience. The State Bar is ready to proceed.

00:24:33

I'm begging your pardon.

00:24:34

The defense requests a moment to review, if we could.

00:24:40

All right. When you're ready.

00:24:43

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:24:52

What are we doing?

00:24:54

We're stalling.

00:24:57

CHUCK: Yes.

00:24:59

Yes, my brother has many admirable qualities.

00:25:02

I-- In some ways, I can say I admire him.

00:25:07

Too cold.

00:25:10

I love my brother.

00:25:13

But Ted Kaczynski's brother loved him too.

00:25:16

And he wanted to help.

00:25:18

That's sanctimonious.

00:25:21

I love my brother.

00:25:23

He's a good person.

00:25:25

He has good in him.

00:25:28

But the law is too important.

00:25:35

[GRUNTS THEN KNOCKING ON DOOR]

00:25:37

Be right there, Howard.

00:25:45

The law is too important.

00:25:50

JIMMY [ON RECORDING]: I sure as shit wouldn't be telling you otherwise.

00:25:54

But yes.

00:25:56

It's the truth.

00:25:58

CHUCK: You'd go to such lengths to humiliate me?

00:26:01

JIMMY: I did it for Kim.

00:26:04

She worked her butt off to get Mesa Verde...

00:26:07

...while you and Howard sat around sipping Scotch and chortling.

00:26:11

Hamlin Hamlin McGill. More like Scrooge and Marley.

00:26:14

Kim deserves Mesa Verde. Not you, not HHM.

00:26:18

She earned it, and she needs it. I did it to help her.

00:26:23

But I honestly didn't think it would hurt you so bad.

00:26:26

I thought you'd just say, "Oh, crap. I made a mistake."

00:26:29

And go on with your life like a normal person.

00:26:31

But, oh, no.

00:26:33

Wishful thinking.

00:26:37

So can I...

00:26:39

...tell Howard you're not quitting or retiring or whatever?

00:26:45

And can we take all the shit down off the walls?

00:26:50

I'm gonna go call Howard.

00:26:53

CHUCK: Jimmy.

00:26:55

You do realize you just confessed to a felony?

00:26:59

JIMMY: I guess.

00:27:01

But you feel better, right?

00:27:04

Besides, it's your word against mine.

00:27:14

Ah. Um....

00:27:18

All right, Mr. Alley, we need to make accommodations for your next witness.

00:27:23

-Is that correct? -Yes, Mr. Chairman.

00:27:25

CHAIRMAN: All right. For those who don't know...

00:27:28

...we need to prepare the room.

00:27:30

The clerk is going to collect your cell phones, watches...

00:27:33

...key fobs, anything electrical.

00:27:35

If you prefer not to, please secure your items outside this room.

00:27:40

Thank you for understanding.

00:27:42

-Your phone, sir? -I left it in the car.

00:28:34

-Excuse me. That's yours. -Sorry.

00:28:51

Please raise your right hand.

00:28:53

Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

00:28:58

I do.

00:29:04

Could you state your name?

00:29:05

Charles L. McGill.

00:29:07

I'm a senior partner at the law firm of Hamlin Hamlin McGill.

00:29:12

-Can the court reporter hear me? -Yes, sir. I can hear you fine.

00:29:15

Mr. McGill, I'll try to be brief.

00:29:17

We don't need to dwell on the burglary or the assault that you suffered.

00:29:21

Thank you. I appreciate that.

00:29:22

ALLEY: What I would like to hear about is this tape.

00:29:25

What compelled you to make it?

00:29:27

I had a suspicion...

00:29:28

...my brother had tampered with documents in a case I was working on.

00:29:31

Now, why would he do that?

00:29:33

-Doesn't sound particularly brotherly. -I believe his hope was the documents...

00:29:37

...would cause the client to become disillusioned with my representation...

00:29:41

...and return to their previous attorney, Ms. Wexler...

00:29:45

...which, I should note, is precisely what happened.

00:29:48

Objection.

00:29:49

I'm not saying Ms. Wexler knew what Jimmy was doing or had any involvement.

00:29:54

I'm only stating that it happened.

00:29:56

Did you have evidence to support your suspicions about James?

00:29:59

No.

00:30:00

My brother, whatever else can be said of him, can be quite clever.

00:30:04

Did an excellent job of covering his tracks.

00:30:06

Objection. Witness has admitted there's no corroborating evidence...

00:30:10

...the supposed crime even occurred.

00:30:12

I'd like to hear what he has to say.

00:30:15

We're going to continue.

00:30:17

We'll extend you the same latitude on cross, Ms. Wexler.

00:30:22

Go on, Mr. McGill.

00:30:23

Without physical evidence, I felt that a recorded confession...

00:30:27

...if I could get one, was my best bet.

00:30:29

On its own, I knew the tape would be somewhat flimsy...

00:30:32

...but it was a start. A foundation for a more ironclad case.

00:30:37

I suppose Jimmy must have felt the tape was decisive evidence on its own.

00:30:41

Otherwise, he wouldn't have broken in to destroy it.

00:30:43

Objection. More speculation.

00:30:45

How can he know what was going on in Jimmy's head?

00:30:47

Sustained. We just need to hear what happened, Mr. McGill.

00:30:50

I-- I apologize.

00:30:52

I recorded my brother to build a case against him.

00:30:55

At the time, would you say you were in possession of your faculties?

00:30:58

All due respect...

00:31:00

...but you do sound somewhat unhinged on the recording.

00:31:03

Yes, I understand that.

00:31:04

But what you heard was theater. A performance. Play-acting.

00:31:08

I exaggerated the symptoms of my disease to extract the truth.

00:31:13

Can we talk about your disease for a moment?

00:31:16

I'd like everybody to be on the same page about it.

00:31:18

Of course. It is sometimes referred to as EHS.

00:31:21

Electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

00:31:24

I describe it as an acute allergy to electromagnetism.

00:31:28

It's not a common condition, is it?

00:31:30

I know it sounds strange. I do.

00:31:33

But 30 years ago, no one had heard of peanut allergies.

00:31:36

But you admit that no one....

00:31:38

No doctor has ever diagnosed you.

00:31:40

AIDS was not identified properly until 1981.

00:31:44

HIV wasn't known as the cause until '83.

00:31:47

These things take time to unravel, even for doctors.

00:31:51

Would you say that your illness affects your ability to think clearly?

00:31:54

No, it affects me physically.

00:31:56

It causes me great pain. However, I'm perfectly lucid.

00:32:00

Thank you.

00:32:01

Mr. McGill, I have only one more question for you.

00:32:06

Do you hate your brother?

00:32:10

Absolutely not.

00:32:12

I love my brother.

00:32:14

There's nothing malicious in Jimmy.

00:32:18

He has a way of doing the worst things for reasons that sound almost noble.

00:32:25

But what I know for sure is that the law is too important to be toyed with.

00:32:29

It's mankind's greatest achievement.

00:32:31

The rule of law, the idea that no matter who you are...

00:32:34

...your actions have consequences.

00:32:37

And the way my brother treats the law...

00:32:41

...it breaks my heart.

00:32:43

That's why I did what I did. Not to hurt him...

00:32:45

...but to protect something that I hold sacred.

00:32:48

Thank you, Mr. McGill.

00:32:50

The State Bar rests.

00:32:56

[WHISPERING] I think we need to put on the brakes.

00:33:02

I'm sorry. My co-counsel and I need a moment to confer.

00:33:06

Please be brief, counselor.

00:33:08

Yes, of course.

00:33:12

[WHISPERING] She'll be here.

00:33:15

Do you have anything for cross?

00:33:17

JIMMY [WHISPERING]: Could I look at your notes?

00:33:19

KIM: Yeah, of course. Can you-- JIMMY: Can you read the writing?

00:33:22

KIM: Yeah.

00:33:25

[WHISPERING INDISTINCTLY]

00:33:40

Mr. Chairman. I'm sorry...

00:33:43

...might I have a moment to get a breath?

00:33:46

Well, of course, Mr. McGill.

00:33:48

Folks, let's call this 15.

00:33:51

Everybody, please be back and ready to go on the hour.

00:34:03

-Rebecca. -Chuck.

00:34:05

-It's good to see you. -I have to say, I'm a bit surprised.

00:34:10

Did Jimmy subpoena you? You're not on the witness list.

00:34:13

-You don't have to testify. -No, no, no. I'm not here for that.

00:34:17

Well, what then?

00:34:19

Chuck, I wish you'd told me.

00:34:22

I-- I can't believe what you've been going through.

00:34:25

-How long has it been? -Ah.

00:34:28

You're here to help...

00:34:30

...because all this is so stressful for me.

00:34:33

-Is that what Jimmy told you? -He's worried about you, Chuck.

00:34:36

In spite of everything that's happened between you two, he cares.

00:34:39

What exactly did he say?

00:34:41

Um.... Well, that you had been sick.

00:34:43

Allergic to electricity?

00:34:45

He sent me pictures of the house. Chuck, my God.

00:34:50

Why didn't you tell me?

00:34:52

I didn't wanna upset you.

00:34:54

Worry you unnecessarily.

00:34:57

But now you're here.

00:35:00

And now you know.

00:35:04

I came because I thought it was the right thing.

00:35:06

I thought, I don't know that you'd want me to.

00:35:09

But I guess that I'm more of a distraction.

00:35:13

So I'm gonna be in town for a few days.

00:35:16

And I would love to spend some time with you.

00:35:19

But right now, I think I should go.

00:35:21

-No, no. Please. I want you to stay. -Really?

00:35:24

-You don't seem happy to see me. -I am.

00:35:27

I'm just surprised. That's all.

00:35:30

Please stay.

00:35:32

-Are you sure? -Yes. I'm sure.

00:35:35

You've been sold a bill of goods, Rebecca.

00:35:38

I want you to see what's what.

00:35:50

She's not what I expected.

00:35:53

Oh, yeah? What'd you expect?

00:35:56

I don't know. Just....

00:35:58

Not her. Heh.

00:36:04

You know, she's gonna hate you when this is over.

00:36:08

Yep.

00:36:21

All right. Mr. McGill, I'll remind you you're still under oath.

00:36:24

-I understand. -At this time...

00:36:26

...I'd like to turn cross-examination over to my co-counsel, James McGill.

00:36:34

[CLEARS THROAT]

00:36:38

There's been a lot of fuss about it, but we never really talked about this tape.

00:36:42

We lost the opportunity when you burglarized my house to destroy it.

00:36:47

Fair enough. And I was in the wrong there...

00:36:50

...but still, I'd like to follow your story of why and how you recorded it.

00:36:56

Oh, is this where you claim the tape is spurious?

00:36:58

-That it's not really your voice? -No. That's me on the tape.

00:37:02

Still, I have some questions. Like the recorder...

00:37:05

...it must have hurt like hell for you to touch that.

00:37:09

There was a degree of discomfort. That's true.

00:37:11

And where did you hide it?

00:37:13

The sound's pretty clear, so it wasn't in the couch cushions, was it?

00:37:16

Tucked under a space blanket. Out of sight.

00:37:19

Wow.

00:37:20

So no chance I'd see it, not with the state your place was in.

00:37:23

-Isn't that right? -I suppose.

00:37:25

Would you like to set the scene for the disciplinary committee?

00:37:28

Tell them what your house looked like at the time of recording?

00:37:31

Objection. Relevance?

00:37:34

Well, the circumstances of the recording are materially relevant.

00:37:37

How can you know what the tape means...

00:37:39

...unless you know what was going on when it was recorded?

00:37:42

Overruled. The witness can answer the question.

00:37:44

I covered most of the walls with Foil-Scrim Kraft insulation.

00:37:48

I also hung a number of space blankets.

00:37:52

Compact Mylar sheets.

00:37:54

They insulate and protect against mild electromagnetic radiation.

00:37:59

All right, so shiny insulation...

00:38:01

...and space blankets all over the walls and ceiling.

00:38:05

It was like being inside of a disco ball.

00:38:07

Do you have a point?

00:38:10

Well, I'm impressed...

00:38:12

...by how much work went into entrapping me.

00:38:15

You went all out.

00:38:16

I didn't entrap you.

00:38:18

I provoked an admission in adverse interest.

00:38:20

That's not the same thing.

00:38:24

How did you know it would work?

00:38:27

What do you mean?

00:38:28

How did you know your provocation would work?

00:38:31

Why'd you think a bunch of shiny plastic would make me say anything?

00:38:36

Isn't it because you knew that it was precisely the thing that would worry me...

00:38:41

...so much that I'd say anything to talk you down?

00:38:43

Objection.

00:38:45

Okay. Withdrawn.

00:38:47

Let's-- Let's get back to your house.

00:38:50

Every surface covered in tinfoil.

00:38:52

-Nothing crazy about that, huh? -As I've said...

00:38:56

...I was playing up my condition. Usually, it's a perfectly normal house.

00:39:02

You think your house is normal? Can I call your attention to Exhibit 9?

00:39:10

This is your house, right?

00:39:12

Yes.

00:39:14

Exposed wires.

00:39:18

There's a camp stove.

00:39:20

There's a lantern on top of newspapers.

00:39:24

You call this normal?

00:39:25

I call them adaptations.

00:39:27

A prophylactic measure for a physical medical condition.

00:39:31

Did the doctor who granted me guardianship...

00:39:33

...think this was a physical condition?

00:39:35

Objection. You can't introduce a TEG as evidence.

00:39:38

Besides, the panel has already ruled Mr. McGill's mental health is not at issue.

00:39:43

No, the State Bar opened the door to this on direct...

00:39:45

...when the witness talked about his supposed play-acting.

00:39:48

Allowing me to follow up on cross is only reasonable.

00:39:52

We discussed a physical allergy. Not a mental disability.

00:39:54

Potato, "potato." It comes down to this:

00:39:57

In order to understand what I was thinking...

00:40:00

...you need to see Chuck through my eyes.

00:40:02

You need to know if I believe that tape was evidence.

00:40:06

And I say it was evidence of only one thing.

00:40:08

My brother hates me.

00:40:11

Now, he claims that he lied to me to get me to tell the truth.

00:40:15

And I'm telling you...

00:40:16

...I lied to my brother to make him feel better.

00:40:19

Which of us you believe...

00:40:21

...depends on how we all understand the mind of Charles McGill.

00:40:27

We did promise the defense some leeway.

00:40:31

-You may proceed. JIMMY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:40:33

But watch yourself.

00:40:42

Chuck, I'd like to go back a little further.

00:40:45

Talk about when these symptoms first started. It was...

00:40:47

...shortly after you were divorced, is that right?

00:40:52

-Yes. -You think the stress of the divorce...

00:40:56

-...brought on the illness? -I doubt it.

00:40:58

It was an amicable split. My ex-wife and I are still on good terms.

00:41:01

In fact, your ex-wife is present with us today. Is she not?

00:41:05

-When was the last time you saw each--? -Objection.

00:41:07

This is not family court.

00:41:09

We're not here to re-litigate the witness's divorce.

00:41:11

-I can't see what purpose this serves. CHUCK: I can.

00:41:15

I'll tell you why my brother brought my ex-wife to this hearing.

00:41:18

Four thousand miles, she came.

00:41:21

Lured by concern for me.

00:41:24

What Jimmy's driving at is the last time I saw her, I covered up my illness.

00:41:28

I'd been suffering from it for some time.

00:41:31

But I went to great lengths to conceal that fact from her.

00:41:36

I'm sorry I deceived you, Rebecca.

00:41:41

I didn't want you to think less of me.

00:41:46

Now Jimmy's outed me in front of you.

00:41:48

You know why?

00:41:50

To rattle me.

00:41:52

He knows I still have...

00:41:55

...a lot of feeling for my ex-wife.

00:41:58

He's hoping this will break me down.

00:42:01

Split me apart at the seams like a murderer confessing...

00:42:04

...on an episode of Perry Mason.

00:42:07

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Jimmy.

00:42:12

Have I answered your questions to your satisfaction?

00:42:17

Do you have anything else?

00:42:21

Yeah, I do.

00:42:23

Earlier, you talked about other diseases...

00:42:25

...physical conditions, you said, so, okay...

00:42:29

...if you'd had, I don't know, lung cancer...

00:42:32

...would you have told Rebecca then?

00:42:36

If that had been the case, maybe. I might have.

00:42:39

-So how is this different? COMMITTEE MEMBER: Mr. McGill.

00:42:41

-Move it along. -You don't have to answer that.

00:42:44

I wanna get down to brass tacks. I wanna be very, very specific here.

00:42:48

This illness, what does it feel like?

00:42:50

You mentioned it's painful.

00:42:52

It is.

00:42:54

There's a tightness in my chest...

00:42:55

...difficulty breathing...

00:42:57

...and pain.

00:42:59

Burning pain. The pain spreads everywhere.

00:43:02

Sounds horrible. Does it hurt right now?

00:43:05

CHUCK: There's always some discomfort, yes.

00:43:08

Electricity is everywhere in the modern world.

00:43:11

But I very much appreciate the indulgence of the panel...

00:43:14

...for their accommodation today.

00:43:16

I can handle this fine.

00:43:22

Right. So with the lights out, you don't feel them.

00:43:25

CHUCK: If the current's not flowing, no.

00:43:27

Sorry about the exit signs. I guess they couldn't kill those for you.

00:43:31

CHUCK: They're not drawing much current, and they're far away.

00:43:34

Intensity drops off with distance per the inverse-square law.

00:43:38

Oh, yeah, whoa. Inverse-square. I'm not a physicist.

00:43:41

Could you dumb that down a shade for me?

00:43:43

The farther away it is...

00:43:45

...the stronger the source needs to be to have an effect.

00:43:48

JIMMY: Got it. Got it. So if I had a small battery, say...

00:43:51

...from a watch, and I got up close to your skin...

00:43:53

...you'd know?

00:43:55

I would feel it, yes.

00:43:56

Can you feel more current coming from any particular direction right now?

00:44:00

From that back wall or....?

00:44:03

From over there or up through the floor?

00:44:06

Can you tell us where the nearest source is right now?

00:44:13

Jimmy, do you have something in your pocket?

00:44:18

Yes, I do, as a matter of fact.

00:44:25

My cell phone.

00:44:26

From this distance, you should feel it, and you don't, do you?

00:44:30

Mr. McGill, you were warned to leave your electronics outside.

00:44:34

It's all right.

00:44:36

It's all right.

00:44:38

May I?

00:44:45

Just as I thought.

00:44:47

There's no battery in here.

00:44:48

You removed the battery.

00:44:52

That's a sorry little trick, isn't it?

00:44:55

Yeah, you got me, Chuck. Dead to rights.

00:44:58

I removed the battery.

00:45:01

-Objection. CHAIRMAN: Sustained.

00:45:03

You've taken all the leeway you're getting, Mr. McGill. Wrap it up.

00:45:07

God, Jimmy.

00:45:09

Don't you know by now this is real?

00:45:11

I feel this.

00:45:13

It's a physical response to stimuli. It's not a quirk.

00:45:18

[CHUCK SIGHS]

00:45:19

What do I have to do to prove it to you?

00:45:22

I don't know, Chuck.

00:45:24

Could you reach into your breast pocket and tell me what's there?

00:45:29

What now?

00:45:37

JIMMY: Can you tell the court what that was?

00:45:42

-A battery. ALLEY: Mr. Chairman.

00:45:44

-Please. -You recognize that man?

00:45:45

His name is Huell Babineaux. He's on our witness list.

00:45:48

You bumped into him in the stairway.

00:45:50

He'll testify he planted this fully-charged battery on you...

00:45:53

...over an hour and a half ago.

00:45:55

-An hour and 43 minutes ago. -An hour and 43 minutes.

00:45:58

Thank you, Mr. Babineaux.

00:46:00

And you felt nothing.

00:46:02

CHUCK: No. It's a trick. It has to be. -Enough is enough.

00:46:04

I submit that Mr. McGill's mental illness is a non-issue.

00:46:08

If he were schizophrenic, it wouldn't take away--

00:46:10

I am not crazy!

00:46:16

I am not crazy.

00:46:19

I know he swapped those numbers.

00:46:20

I knew it was "1216."

00:46:23

One after Magna Carta.

00:46:24

As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never.

00:46:27

Never. I just couldn't prove it.

00:46:30

He-- He covered his tracks.

00:46:32

He got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him.

00:46:34

ALLEY: Mr. McGill. You don't have to-- -You think this is something?

00:46:38

You think this is bad? This chicanery?

00:46:41

He's done worse.

00:46:42

That billboard.

00:46:43

Are you telling me a man just happens to fall like that?

00:46:46

No. He orchestrated it.

00:46:48

Jimmy.

00:46:51

He defecated through a sunroof.

00:46:54

And I saved him.

00:46:56

I shouldn't have. I took him into my own firm.

00:46:59

What was I thinking?

00:47:02

He'll never change.

00:47:03

He'll never change. Ever since he was 9, always the same.

00:47:07

Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer.

00:47:10

"But not our Jimmy."

00:47:12

"Couldn't be precious Jimmy."

00:47:14

Stealing them blind.

00:47:17

And he gets to be a lawyer?

00:47:19

What a sick joke.

00:47:21

I should've stopped him when I had the chance.

00:47:24

And you-- You have to stop him. You--

00:47:49

I apologize.

00:47:53

I lost my train of thought.

00:47:59

I got carried away.

00:48:04

[CLEARS THROAT]

00:48:07

Do you have anything else?

00:48:11

No.

00:48:12

Nothing further.

00:48:18

[SIGHS]

00:48:23

[ELECTRICITY BUZZING]

00:48:39

[♪♪♪]