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00:00:27I found a phone.
00:00:30It looks like it's from 1967, but I think it will work.
00:00:33Just a second, Jimmy.
00:00:35Excellent. Thank you for being so careful.
00:00:37-Sir, we have to get in your attic. -For what?
00:00:41The hookup.
00:00:42-That's all right. Don't bother. -It won't take 20 minutes.
00:00:45-You can't use it if I don't do it. -No, it's all right. We're not gonna.
00:00:48When you're done, would you get some more lamps in the garage?
00:00:52Thanks.
00:00:54-So you got a phone. -Yeah.
00:00:55Yard's half-mowed. Sockets and stuff are looking A-okay.
00:00:59I'm gonna check again just to make sure.
00:01:01-We're almost there. -Good, good. Um....
00:01:05What do you think? On? Off?
00:01:08Oh. I think off.
00:01:11Yeah. You're right.
00:01:13Off, it is.
00:01:14Chuck, are you sure this is the right play?
00:01:17I mean, in my experience...
00:01:19...the bigger the lie, the harder it can be to dig out.
00:01:23I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
00:01:29JIMMY: Hey, guys, think we're set with the lamps.
00:01:31Can someone give me a hand with this phone?
00:02:30Mm.
00:02:36[PEOPLE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
00:02:48[KNOCKING ON DOOR]
00:02:49It's open.
00:02:59Rebecca.
00:03:01-Chuck. CHUCK: You look lovely.
00:03:03-Oh, it's so good to see you. -And you.
00:03:06-You look.... -Hey, what's with the candles?
00:03:09-Why are you sitting in the dark? -Wondering the same thing.
00:03:12Oh, my God. The afternoon I've had.
00:03:15Two hours ago, I take the sea bass out.
00:03:17No sooner is it prepped and resting then, boom...
00:03:21...power goes down.
00:03:23I get on the phone to the city.
00:03:25To make a long story short, those bozos at PNM mixed up my payment.
00:03:30The deadbeat at 512 San Cristobal hasn't been paying his bills.
00:03:34-And of course, I'm 215. -215.
00:03:37-Exactly. -Mm-hm. Mm.
00:03:38They say they'll have it on again by tomorrow.
00:03:41In the meantime, I borrowed some camping gear from my neighbors.
00:03:44Hence, the rustic flair.
00:03:47-Jeez. So, what do we do? -Oh, yeah.
00:03:49Get out and go to a restaurant?
00:03:51We could hit Seasons. Your treat.
00:03:54We could. Yeah.
00:03:56But, you know, dinner's almost ready. And the fish...
00:04:00...would've had to throw it out. All I do is toss it in the pan.
00:04:03How about we just rough it?
00:04:05-Are you okay with that? -Uh.... Um....
00:04:08Well...
00:04:09...why not? It'll be fun. We'll do an haute-cuisine campout.
00:04:14Great, then it's settled. Let me take that.
00:04:16-Take your coat. -Oh, yeah. Here. Thank you. Mm-hm.
00:04:22Mm.
00:04:24Oh, my God.
00:04:25I can't eat another bite.
00:04:27[CHUCKLING]
00:04:30Cheers.
00:04:31-To the Galloping Gourmet. -Mm.
00:04:34-Yeah. CHUCK: Ha, ha, ha.
00:04:37REBECCA: The Calvados is perfect. -You always liked it.
00:04:41Here. Uh, um....
00:04:44-Let me get this. -No, no.
00:04:45-You don't have to. -The least I can do is the dishes.
00:04:48Thank you.
00:04:50Thanks, Jimmy.
00:04:55This turned out better than I thought. Heh, heh.
00:04:58I'm so sorry about the lights.
00:05:01Oh, it's nice. Atmospheric.
00:05:04I mean, I still can't get over Jimmy being a lawyer.
00:05:08Neither can I. He's got his own shingle out and everything.
00:05:12I mean, a real, responsible citizen. I mean, who would've thought?
00:05:16[CHUCK CHUCKLES]
00:05:22This place is the same.
00:05:23I mean, I would've thought you'd...
00:05:27...change things up, move things around.
00:05:30You've got great taste, and if it ain't broke....
00:05:34-How's the tour going? -It's good.
00:05:36Good. The Far East this fall.
00:05:39China, South Korea and Vietnam. That's gonna be exciting.
00:05:42-Yeah. -And then, after Santa Fe this week...
00:05:46-...we're back to Central Europe. -And it's good?
00:05:48Well, it's a lot of hotels.
00:05:50I mean, in Budapest...
00:05:51...I think I saw mostly the inside of a concert hall and the Marriott.
00:05:55But, you know, I shouldn't complain.
00:05:58You're not complaining. You're observing.
00:06:04Did you finally get to see Salzburg?
00:06:06Not yet, but next month after Vienna.
00:06:09Do you remember when we tried to go to Salzburg?
00:06:12And that crazy old lady on the scooter...
00:06:14-Oh, yes. Yes. -...chased us out of the train station.
00:06:17REBECCA: Yeah, and then....
00:06:18And then we went and got--
00:06:20It was a raspberry Linzer torte in Innsbruck...
00:06:24...to make ourselves feel better.
00:06:26-You said, "We'll never finish this." -And then we did.
00:06:29[BOTH LAUGHING]
00:06:32CHUCK: So what's after Asia? Any plans for a stateside tour?
00:06:35Oh, you know, hopefully next year. You know, maybe a residency.
00:06:38That would be sweet.
00:06:40I mean, you know, I like the buses and trains and flying...
00:06:43...but I, um....
00:06:45I miss having one-- One place to hang my hat.
00:06:51[CELL PHONE RINGING]
00:06:55Oh, God.
00:06:57I'm sorry. I-- I hate that thing.
00:07:00I feel like I'm on a leash.
00:07:01[REBECCA GROANS]
00:07:04I'm sorry.
00:07:06[♪♪♪]
00:07:08Oh. Oh, it's my conductor. Um, I have to take this.
00:07:12I'm sorry.
00:07:13Hi, Andre.
00:07:15No, I'm just at dinner. What's up?
00:07:18Well, I could do that at rehearsal. Yeah, no problem. Yeah.
00:07:22No, I know that they're coming in late on bar 16.
00:07:26Yeah. Got it. Got it. I will make sure that....
00:07:30Can-- Can you hold on one second? Let me just get a pen.
00:07:33Mm-hm.
00:07:35Yeah, no, I-- I....
00:07:38Yeah, hold on one second.
00:07:40Yeah, we could do it whenever you need. Mm-hm.
00:07:43Okay. All right, shoot.
00:07:46Okay. Haydn.
00:07:48Okay....
00:07:51-Chuck. -I'm all right.
00:07:53Well, do you want me to rehearse the cellos separately?
00:07:57Rebecca. Rebecca.
00:07:59Just one minute.
00:08:01Well, no. It's not just him. It's the whole section, actually.
00:08:04JIMMY: Rebecca. -Yeah, yeah. No.
00:08:07That's fine. Yeah.
00:08:10Chuck, what the hell?
00:08:15Andre?
00:08:17I-- I'll have to call you back. I'm sorry.
00:08:23What is your problem?
00:08:27Say something.
00:08:33It is incredibly bad manners to answer a cell phone in company.
00:08:39It's very rude.
00:08:40Uh, I-- I'm sorry. I....
00:08:45I didn't know you felt that way.
00:08:47I didn't mean to offend you, Chuck.
00:08:50I-- I may have overreacted. That was very abrupt.
00:08:53No. I understand.
00:08:58Uh....
00:09:00It's getting late.
00:09:02Thank you for a lovely dinner, but I should be getting back to the hotel.
00:09:06JIMMY: Just give me a minute and we can--
00:09:08No. I'll just get a cab. I don't want to put you out anymore.
00:09:11-Please, let me. -No, really.
00:09:13A cab is the easiest.
00:09:17You gotta do something. You can't let her leave like this.
00:09:21-Just tell her what's going on. -No.
00:09:23She'll understand.
00:09:25Would you rather she think you're a raging prick than know the truth?
00:09:29No.
00:09:30Look, if you won't tell her, then I will.
00:09:33No, no, no. You will not tell her.
00:09:37You will not tell her.
00:09:41All right.
00:09:43Hi, Andre. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry about that. I dropped the phone.
00:09:48[♪♪♪]
00:10:05[DOGS BARKING]
00:10:21MAN: Jesus, what are you doing, man?
00:10:23There's barely any oxygen in that bag. You're suffocating her.
00:10:26Her?
00:10:27Just because you don't see swinging dicks...
00:10:29...doesn't mean you can't tell a boy fish from a girl fish.
00:10:33Oh, yeah. See. Now I can see the lipstick.
00:10:36This is a living creature.
00:10:38It's not a piece of furniture.
00:10:39So after this, you take her home, you put her in a big bowl.
00:10:42At least a gallon. Get a good bubbler.
00:10:46Maybe a plecostomus.
00:10:47And don't feed her too much. People get fat.
00:10:50-Fish, they drown in leftover food. -All right already, Jacques Cousteau.
00:10:54-Point made. -Good.
00:11:00I'm guessing our friend didn't refer you to me to get ichthyological advice.
00:11:06I'm looking for someone with a light touch.
00:11:09I'm not talking some teenager taking a five-finger discount of string cheese...
00:11:12...at the Stop & Shop. I need...
00:11:15...highly skilled, high-end, discreet.
00:11:18A real pro.
00:11:21You gotta fit him in a tight space?
00:11:24I don't think so.
00:11:27I got just the guy then.
00:11:41COMMISSIONER: That's what-- That's what happens. It was just a bad swing.
00:11:45It's gonna get better.
00:11:47That's why I say golfing is a contact sport.
00:11:50[LAUGHING]
00:11:52Great job, Ms. Wexler. Very refreshing.
00:11:55Believe me, we're happy to get this one off the docket.
00:11:58Not as happy as we are.
00:12:00-Again, great job. -Thank you. Thank you, sir.
00:12:07Ladies...
00:12:09...dinner's on me.
00:12:11Kim, I knew you were good, but I didn't know you were this good.
00:12:14-I'm glad you're happy. -We couldn't have done it without you...
00:12:17...and I hope you realize this means a whole lot of work coming your way.
00:12:20Well, that's-- That's great.
00:12:24Well, you don't sound like it's great.
00:12:28I hate to be a buzzkill. There is something you need to hear...
00:12:30...before we get any deeper in.
00:12:32It's about your former attorney...
00:12:34-...Charles McGill. -What about him?
00:12:37Charles has been making some very ugly allegations about his brother, Jimmy...
00:12:42...with whom I happen to share an office space.
00:12:44PAIGE: Allegations of what?
00:12:49Charles thinks Jimmy took control of your documents while working on them.
00:12:54He believes Jimmy transposed the address numbers.
00:12:57Transposed the numbers?
00:12:59How would he even do that?
00:13:02Charles contends Jimmy took documents pertaining to the Rosella branch...
00:13:06...and while Charles was indisposed...
00:13:09...photocopied and doctored them.
00:13:11That's pretty baroque.
00:13:15The important thing here is I think it could make some noise in public.
00:13:18Soon. I wanted to tell you this in the spirit of full disclosure.
00:13:22I thought it was better if you heard it from me.
00:13:26If you have any reservations at this point...
00:13:29...or if you are not comfortable staying with me, we can discuss options.
00:13:40If there's one thing I cannot abide...
00:13:42...it's a man who won't own up to his mistakes.
00:13:45Now whatever mud McGill is slinging is not gonna screw me out of the best...
00:13:50...outside counsel I've ever had.
00:13:54That's....
00:13:56-I'm so glad to hear that. -We appreciate the heads-up...
00:13:59...but you can call this baby put to bed. Now the most important thing, dinner.
00:14:03Seven good for you?
00:14:04-Works for me. -Great.
00:14:06We'll talk strategy.
00:14:08We move on to Colorado or Utah first.
00:14:10See you at 7.
00:14:13This McGill thing...
00:14:14...you're sure it's not gonna be a problem?
00:14:18I am.
00:14:20Mesa Verde isn't involved in any way, shape or form.
00:14:24Okay. Good.
00:14:27Then I'll see you tonight.
00:14:29Okay, great. See you then.
00:14:43[ELECTRICITY BUZZING]
00:14:48Okay, this is it.
00:14:49We can run without lights and mikes.
00:14:52We'll collect cell phones and hold them for your testimony.
00:14:55The court reporter...
00:14:57...would it be possible to move him or her farther from the witness stand?
00:15:00Yeah, I think we can arrange having them in the back of the court.
00:15:04I'm sorry. There's nothing I can do about the exit signs. It's code.
00:15:08I appreciate all you're doing. Thank you.
00:15:13Mr. Alley, I wonder if you'd give us a moment. I'd like to go over something.
00:15:17No problem. I'll be outside when you're ready.
00:15:21Howard.
00:15:23How are you feeling, Chuck?
00:15:26I'll muddle through.
00:15:27Because this is a lot to ask.
00:15:29And if you're not up to it, just throwing this out there.
00:15:32-Maybe you don't need to testify at all. -No. I do.
00:15:35I'm the only person who can adequately explain the context of that tape.
00:15:39Or the defense will tear it to shreds.
00:15:41It's already a solid case. We have Jimmy's statement...
00:15:44...from the Pre-Prosecution Diversion, my testimony and the private eye's.
00:15:49Maybe there's no need to put you through the ringer like this.
00:15:53This isn't about me...
00:15:54...or my health.
00:15:56This is about PR.
00:15:58We lost a client.
00:16:00That happened because while you were incapacitated...
00:16:05...your brother accessed documents that should have been secured at HHM.
00:16:09What Jimmy did is unconscionable, yes...
00:16:13...but one of my jobs is to safeguard the firm's reputation.
00:16:16This is not the time to worry about how we look.
00:16:19This is about what's right and what's wrong.
00:16:22I'm not gonna risk Jimmy getting, what, a year of suspension?
00:16:26Maybe two?
00:16:27He deserves disbarment.
00:16:29Not some slap on the wrist.
00:16:31No, Howard, there's only one way forward.
00:16:36"Let justice be done though the heavens fall."
00:16:41Sorry to keep you waiting. This will do nicely.
00:16:44Extend my thanks to the committee for their flexibility.
00:16:49ALLEY: Good morning. I'm Robert Alley for the State Bar.
00:16:52In the matter of James M. McGill...
00:16:55...the State Bar intends to prove the following violations of the ethical code:
00:16:5916-102: engaging in conduct the lawyer knows is criminal.
00:17:05Mr. McGill knew that breaking down his brother's door was criminal behavior.
00:17:1016-804: committing a criminal act...
00:17:14...that reflects adversely on the lawyer's honesty...
00:17:17...or trustworthiness as a lawyer.
00:17:20Any reasonable person would agree assaulting a lawyer...
00:17:23...in his own home reflects badly on Mr. McGill's fitness as an attorney.
00:17:3016-304: unlawfully altering, destroying...
00:17:34...or concealing material having potential evidentiary value.
00:17:38Mr. McGill broke into his brother's home and destroyed an audio cassette...
00:17:42...which contained a recording of a conversation between himself...
00:17:46...and his brother, Charles McGill.
00:17:48We will show this recording was evidence in an ongoing legal case.
00:17:53The State Bar believes that once we have presented the facts...
00:17:56...the committee will agree that disbarment is warranted for James McGill.
00:18:02Thank you very much.
00:18:04Thank you, Mr. Alley.
00:18:07Ms. Wexler.
00:18:13Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:18:16Good morning.
00:18:17I'm Kim Wexler, co-counsel with James McGill, for the defense.
00:18:21You've already read Mr. McGill's Pre-Prosecution Statement.
00:18:25We don't dispute he broke into his brother's house.
00:18:27An act he regrets...
00:18:30...deeply.
00:18:32But there is another side to this story.
00:18:34One not about calculation...
00:18:37...or ill intent.
00:18:40But about two brothers...
00:18:43...whose relationship after years of strain...
00:18:47...finally broke.
00:18:50We believe that after you have the complete picture...
00:18:53...you'll understand James McGill is an asset to our legal community.
00:18:58And he should remain a full member of it in good standing.
00:19:03Thank you.
00:19:06Thank you, Ms. Wexler.
00:19:11Okay. If everyone's ready to...
00:19:15...begin testimony.
00:19:17Mr. Alley, call your witness.
00:19:19HOWARD: Bang, bang, bang. Then he kicked down the door.
00:19:22Jimmy was very agitated. He was shouting.
00:19:25He demanded Charles turn over the evidence he--
00:19:28Objection. We haven't established the tape is evidence of anything.
00:19:32The defense has only acknowledged it is a piece of property.
00:19:35Allow me to rephrase.
00:19:37Jimmy demanded an audio cassette in Charles' possession...
00:19:41...which Jimmy proceeded, with the help of an iron fireplace implement...
00:19:45...to pry from Charles' desk.
00:19:47He then broke the cassette into pieces and went on to confront his brother.
00:19:52What happened after the defendant smashed this tape?
00:19:55-Mr. Brightbill and I-- -That's the private investigator...
00:19:58-...that Charles hired? -That's correct.
00:20:00He and I were concerned that Jimmy might strike his brother.
00:20:04So that's when we stepped in.
00:20:06-Thank you, Mr. Hamlin. -Certainly.
00:20:07Nothing further at this time.
00:20:09CHAIRMAN: Ms. Wexler.
00:20:13KIM: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:20:16[CLEARS THROAT]
00:20:22You testified you've known my client for some time.
00:20:26How long exactly?
00:20:28Nearly 10 years.
00:20:30How did you come to know him?
00:20:32His brother asked to hire him in the mail room at our firm.
00:20:35-And you did? -Yes.
00:20:37What was your opinion of him then?
00:20:41I thought...
00:20:44...he had a lot of get up and go.
00:20:46-He was a hard worker. -You had a nickname for him, didn't you?
00:20:51"Charlie Hustle."
00:20:52Charlie Hustle?
00:20:54How'd you feel when you found out he'd become a lawyer?
00:20:57Surprised. He had put himself through law school...
00:20:59...and taken the bar exam without telling any of the partners.
00:21:02Even Charles.
00:21:04He bootstrapped his way into a law degree while working in your mail room.
00:21:08Did you consider taking him on as an associate?
00:21:10We did.
00:21:12-Briefly. -Sounds like you didn't hire him.
00:21:15Why not? With that kind of grit?
00:21:17The partners decided it would be best to avoid the appearance of nepotism.
00:21:22We felt hiring Jimmy might damage morale.
00:21:26Nepotism.
00:21:28Your firm is Hamlin Hamlin & McGill, right?
00:21:31Who's the other Hamlin?
00:21:35My father.
00:21:41Which partner was the most concerned with nepotism?
00:21:45Charles McGill.
00:21:47-So Jimmy's own brother blocked him? ALLEY: Objection.
00:21:50How are the hiring practices of Hamlin Hamlin McGill relevant here?
00:21:53It's relevant to understand the relationship between these brothers.
00:21:59We'll give you some leeway, Ms. Wexler...
00:22:02...but don't stray. Charles McGill is not the subject of this hearing.
00:22:05Thank you.
00:22:08Did Jimmy know his brother was the one that prevented you from hiring him?
00:22:11HOWARD: No. He did not.
00:22:15Eventually, he was hired by the firm of Davis & Main.
00:22:17I'd be happy to say more about that if you'd like.
00:22:21No. Thank you.
00:22:24When Charles' condition appeared, Jimmy took care of him, didn't he?
00:22:28I believe so.
00:22:30Jimmy was struggling to build his solo law practice, yet every day, without fail...
00:22:35...he brought his brother food, supplies...
00:22:38...even his favorite newspapers. Isn't that right?
00:22:40He did.
00:22:42KIM: Could you speak to the terms of Charles' leave of absence?
00:22:46You know I can't.
00:22:47It was an FMLA leave.
00:22:50Anything more is confidential.
00:22:52You can confirm it was due to mental illness?
00:22:54Objection. Charles McGill's mental health isn't at issue.
00:22:57This is a smear job on the State Bar's upcoming witness. Nothing more.
00:23:01This is not a competency hearing.
00:23:03Mr. Hamlin is not a psychiatric professional.
00:23:05Do you have any questions that would be more germane to his experience?
00:23:10No.
00:23:12I have nothing further.
00:23:14CHAIRMAN: The witness is excused.
00:23:28At this time, the State Bar would like to enter Exhibit 5 into evidence.
00:23:32-We ask Charles' recording be played. -Respectfully renewing my objection.
00:23:35Probative value of playing this is outweighed by how prejudicial it is.
00:23:39All due respect, but the State Bar feels this is fundamental to hear.
00:23:43Don't wanna leave any question as to the intentions of both parties.
00:23:46We already ruled this was fair game when we denied your motion to suppress.
00:23:50I'll add, the rough and tumble of your client's conduct aside...
00:23:54...we need to know if one lawyer attempted to tamper...
00:23:56...with another's evidence.
00:24:11[WHISPERING] Come here.
00:24:13-What are you doing here? -[WHISPERING] Flight's delayed.
00:24:15How delayed?
00:24:17-Forty minutes, last I checked. -Shit.
00:24:20Okay. Keep me posted.
00:24:23[ALLEY SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
00:24:25WOMAN: Here we go.
00:24:30Thank you for your patience. The State Bar is ready to proceed.
00:24:33I'm begging your pardon.
00:24:34The defense requests a moment to review, if we could.
00:24:40All right. When you're ready.
00:24:43Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:24:52What are we doing?
00:24:54We're stalling.
00:24:57CHUCK: Yes.
00:24:59Yes, my brother has many admirable qualities.
00:25:02I-- In some ways, I can say I admire him.
00:25:07Too cold.
00:25:10I love my brother.
00:25:13But Ted Kaczynski's brother loved him too.
00:25:16And he wanted to help.
00:25:18That's sanctimonious.
00:25:21I love my brother.
00:25:23He's a good person.
00:25:25He has good in him.
00:25:28But the law is too important.
00:25:35[GRUNTS THEN KNOCKING ON DOOR]
00:25:37Be right there, Howard.
00:25:45The law is too important.
00:25:50JIMMY [ON RECORDING]: I sure as shit wouldn't be telling you otherwise.
00:25:54But yes.
00:25:56It's the truth.
00:25:58CHUCK: You'd go to such lengths to humiliate me?
00:26:01JIMMY: I did it for Kim.
00:26:04She worked her butt off to get Mesa Verde...
00:26:07...while you and Howard sat around sipping Scotch and chortling.
00:26:11Hamlin Hamlin McGill. More like Scrooge and Marley.
00:26:14Kim deserves Mesa Verde. Not you, not HHM.
00:26:18She earned it, and she needs it. I did it to help her.
00:26:23But I honestly didn't think it would hurt you so bad.
00:26:26I thought you'd just say, "Oh, crap. I made a mistake."
00:26:29And go on with your life like a normal person.
00:26:31But, oh, no.
00:26:33Wishful thinking.
00:26:37So can I...
00:26:39...tell Howard you're not quitting or retiring or whatever?
00:26:45And can we take all the shit down off the walls?
00:26:50I'm gonna go call Howard.
00:26:53CHUCK: Jimmy.
00:26:55You do realize you just confessed to a felony?
00:26:59JIMMY: I guess.
00:27:01But you feel better, right?
00:27:04Besides, it's your word against mine.
00:27:14Ah. Um....
00:27:18All right, Mr. Alley, we need to make accommodations for your next witness.
00:27:23-Is that correct? -Yes, Mr. Chairman.
00:27:25CHAIRMAN: All right. For those who don't know...
00:27:28...we need to prepare the room.
00:27:30The clerk is going to collect your cell phones, watches...
00:27:33...key fobs, anything electrical.
00:27:35If you prefer not to, please secure your items outside this room.
00:27:40Thank you for understanding.
00:27:42-Your phone, sir? -I left it in the car.
00:28:34-Excuse me. That's yours. -Sorry.
00:28:51Please raise your right hand.
00:28:53Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
00:28:58I do.
00:29:04Could you state your name?
00:29:05Charles L. McGill.
00:29:07I'm a senior partner at the law firm of Hamlin Hamlin McGill.
00:29:12-Can the court reporter hear me? -Yes, sir. I can hear you fine.
00:29:15Mr. McGill, I'll try to be brief.
00:29:17We don't need to dwell on the burglary or the assault that you suffered.
00:29:21Thank you. I appreciate that.
00:29:22ALLEY: What I would like to hear about is this tape.
00:29:25What compelled you to make it?
00:29:27I had a suspicion...
00:29:28...my brother had tampered with documents in a case I was working on.
00:29:31Now, why would he do that?
00:29:33-Doesn't sound particularly brotherly. -I believe his hope was the documents...
00:29:37...would cause the client to become disillusioned with my representation...
00:29:41...and return to their previous attorney, Ms. Wexler...
00:29:45...which, I should note, is precisely what happened.
00:29:48Objection.
00:29:49I'm not saying Ms. Wexler knew what Jimmy was doing or had any involvement.
00:29:54I'm only stating that it happened.
00:29:56Did you have evidence to support your suspicions about James?
00:29:59No.
00:30:00My brother, whatever else can be said of him, can be quite clever.
00:30:04Did an excellent job of covering his tracks.
00:30:06Objection. Witness has admitted there's no corroborating evidence...
00:30:10...the supposed crime even occurred.
00:30:12I'd like to hear what he has to say.
00:30:15We're going to continue.
00:30:17We'll extend you the same latitude on cross, Ms. Wexler.
00:30:22Go on, Mr. McGill.
00:30:23Without physical evidence, I felt that a recorded confession...
00:30:27...if I could get one, was my best bet.
00:30:29On its own, I knew the tape would be somewhat flimsy...
00:30:32...but it was a start. A foundation for a more ironclad case.
00:30:37I suppose Jimmy must have felt the tape was decisive evidence on its own.
00:30:41Otherwise, he wouldn't have broken in to destroy it.
00:30:43Objection. More speculation.
00:30:45How can he know what was going on in Jimmy's head?
00:30:47Sustained. We just need to hear what happened, Mr. McGill.
00:30:50I-- I apologize.
00:30:52I recorded my brother to build a case against him.
00:30:55At the time, would you say you were in possession of your faculties?
00:30:58All due respect...
00:31:00...but you do sound somewhat unhinged on the recording.
00:31:03Yes, I understand that.
00:31:04But what you heard was theater. A performance. Play-acting.
00:31:08I exaggerated the symptoms of my disease to extract the truth.
00:31:13Can we talk about your disease for a moment?
00:31:16I'd like everybody to be on the same page about it.
00:31:18Of course. It is sometimes referred to as EHS.
00:31:21Electromagnetic hypersensitivity.
00:31:24I describe it as an acute allergy to electromagnetism.
00:31:28It's not a common condition, is it?
00:31:30I know it sounds strange. I do.
00:31:33But 30 years ago, no one had heard of peanut allergies.
00:31:36But you admit that no one....
00:31:38No doctor has ever diagnosed you.
00:31:40AIDS was not identified properly until 1981.
00:31:44HIV wasn't known as the cause until '83.
00:31:47These things take time to unravel, even for doctors.
00:31:51Would you say that your illness affects your ability to think clearly?
00:31:54No, it affects me physically.
00:31:56It causes me great pain. However, I'm perfectly lucid.
00:32:00Thank you.
00:32:01Mr. McGill, I have only one more question for you.
00:32:06Do you hate your brother?
00:32:10Absolutely not.
00:32:12I love my brother.
00:32:14There's nothing malicious in Jimmy.
00:32:18He has a way of doing the worst things for reasons that sound almost noble.
00:32:25But what I know for sure is that the law is too important to be toyed with.
00:32:29It's mankind's greatest achievement.
00:32:31The rule of law, the idea that no matter who you are...
00:32:34...your actions have consequences.
00:32:37And the way my brother treats the law...
00:32:41...it breaks my heart.
00:32:43That's why I did what I did. Not to hurt him...
00:32:45...but to protect something that I hold sacred.
00:32:48Thank you, Mr. McGill.
00:32:50The State Bar rests.
00:32:56[WHISPERING] I think we need to put on the brakes.
00:33:02I'm sorry. My co-counsel and I need a moment to confer.
00:33:06Please be brief, counselor.
00:33:08Yes, of course.
00:33:12[WHISPERING] She'll be here.
00:33:15Do you have anything for cross?
00:33:17JIMMY [WHISPERING]: Could I look at your notes?
00:33:19KIM: Yeah, of course. Can you-- JIMMY: Can you read the writing?
00:33:22KIM: Yeah.
00:33:25[WHISPERING INDISTINCTLY]
00:33:40Mr. Chairman. I'm sorry...
00:33:43...might I have a moment to get a breath?
00:33:46Well, of course, Mr. McGill.
00:33:48Folks, let's call this 15.
00:33:51Everybody, please be back and ready to go on the hour.
00:34:03-Rebecca. -Chuck.
00:34:05-It's good to see you. -I have to say, I'm a bit surprised.
00:34:10Did Jimmy subpoena you? You're not on the witness list.
00:34:13-You don't have to testify. -No, no, no. I'm not here for that.
00:34:17Well, what then?
00:34:19Chuck, I wish you'd told me.
00:34:22I-- I can't believe what you've been going through.
00:34:25-How long has it been? -Ah.
00:34:28You're here to help...
00:34:30...because all this is so stressful for me.
00:34:33-Is that what Jimmy told you? -He's worried about you, Chuck.
00:34:36In spite of everything that's happened between you two, he cares.
00:34:39What exactly did he say?
00:34:41Um.... Well, that you had been sick.
00:34:43Allergic to electricity?
00:34:45He sent me pictures of the house. Chuck, my God.
00:34:50Why didn't you tell me?
00:34:52I didn't wanna upset you.
00:34:54Worry you unnecessarily.
00:34:57But now you're here.
00:35:00And now you know.
00:35:04I came because I thought it was the right thing.
00:35:06I thought, I don't know that you'd want me to.
00:35:09But I guess that I'm more of a distraction.
00:35:13So I'm gonna be in town for a few days.
00:35:16And I would love to spend some time with you.
00:35:19But right now, I think I should go.
00:35:21-No, no. Please. I want you to stay. -Really?
00:35:24-You don't seem happy to see me. -I am.
00:35:27I'm just surprised. That's all.
00:35:30Please stay.
00:35:32-Are you sure? -Yes. I'm sure.
00:35:35You've been sold a bill of goods, Rebecca.
00:35:38I want you to see what's what.
00:35:50She's not what I expected.
00:35:53Oh, yeah? What'd you expect?
00:35:56I don't know. Just....
00:35:58Not her. Heh.
00:36:04You know, she's gonna hate you when this is over.
00:36:08Yep.
00:36:21All right. Mr. McGill, I'll remind you you're still under oath.
00:36:24-I understand. -At this time...
00:36:26...I'd like to turn cross-examination over to my co-counsel, James McGill.
00:36:34[CLEARS THROAT]
00:36:38There's been a lot of fuss about it, but we never really talked about this tape.
00:36:42We lost the opportunity when you burglarized my house to destroy it.
00:36:47Fair enough. And I was in the wrong there...
00:36:50...but still, I'd like to follow your story of why and how you recorded it.
00:36:56Oh, is this where you claim the tape is spurious?
00:36:58-That it's not really your voice? -No. That's me on the tape.
00:37:02Still, I have some questions. Like the recorder...
00:37:05...it must have hurt like hell for you to touch that.
00:37:09There was a degree of discomfort. That's true.
00:37:11And where did you hide it?
00:37:13The sound's pretty clear, so it wasn't in the couch cushions, was it?
00:37:16Tucked under a space blanket. Out of sight.
00:37:19Wow.
00:37:20So no chance I'd see it, not with the state your place was in.
00:37:23-Isn't that right? -I suppose.
00:37:25Would you like to set the scene for the disciplinary committee?
00:37:28Tell them what your house looked like at the time of recording?
00:37:31Objection. Relevance?
00:37:34Well, the circumstances of the recording are materially relevant.
00:37:37How can you know what the tape means...
00:37:39...unless you know what was going on when it was recorded?
00:37:42Overruled. The witness can answer the question.
00:37:44I covered most of the walls with Foil-Scrim Kraft insulation.
00:37:48I also hung a number of space blankets.
00:37:52Compact Mylar sheets.
00:37:54They insulate and protect against mild electromagnetic radiation.
00:37:59All right, so shiny insulation...
00:38:01...and space blankets all over the walls and ceiling.
00:38:05It was like being inside of a disco ball.
00:38:07Do you have a point?
00:38:10Well, I'm impressed...
00:38:12...by how much work went into entrapping me.
00:38:15You went all out.
00:38:16I didn't entrap you.
00:38:18I provoked an admission in adverse interest.
00:38:20That's not the same thing.
00:38:24How did you know it would work?
00:38:27What do you mean?
00:38:28How did you know your provocation would work?
00:38:31Why'd you think a bunch of shiny plastic would make me say anything?
00:38:36Isn't it because you knew that it was precisely the thing that would worry me...
00:38:41...so much that I'd say anything to talk you down?
00:38:43Objection.
00:38:45Okay. Withdrawn.
00:38:47Let's-- Let's get back to your house.
00:38:50Every surface covered in tinfoil.
00:38:52-Nothing crazy about that, huh? -As I've said...
00:38:56...I was playing up my condition. Usually, it's a perfectly normal house.
00:39:02You think your house is normal? Can I call your attention to Exhibit 9?
00:39:10This is your house, right?
00:39:12Yes.
00:39:14Exposed wires.
00:39:18There's a camp stove.
00:39:20There's a lantern on top of newspapers.
00:39:24You call this normal?
00:39:25I call them adaptations.
00:39:27A prophylactic measure for a physical medical condition.
00:39:31Did the doctor who granted me guardianship...
00:39:33...think this was a physical condition?
00:39:35Objection. You can't introduce a TEG as evidence.
00:39:38Besides, the panel has already ruled Mr. McGill's mental health is not at issue.
00:39:43No, the State Bar opened the door to this on direct...
00:39:45...when the witness talked about his supposed play-acting.
00:39:48Allowing me to follow up on cross is only reasonable.
00:39:52We discussed a physical allergy. Not a mental disability.
00:39:54Potato, "potato." It comes down to this:
00:39:57In order to understand what I was thinking...
00:40:00...you need to see Chuck through my eyes.
00:40:02You need to know if I believe that tape was evidence.
00:40:06And I say it was evidence of only one thing.
00:40:08My brother hates me.
00:40:11Now, he claims that he lied to me to get me to tell the truth.
00:40:15And I'm telling you...
00:40:16...I lied to my brother to make him feel better.
00:40:19Which of us you believe...
00:40:21...depends on how we all understand the mind of Charles McGill.
00:40:27We did promise the defense some leeway.
00:40:31-You may proceed. JIMMY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:40:33But watch yourself.
00:40:42Chuck, I'd like to go back a little further.
00:40:45Talk about when these symptoms first started. It was...
00:40:47...shortly after you were divorced, is that right?
00:40:52-Yes. -You think the stress of the divorce...
00:40:56-...brought on the illness? -I doubt it.
00:40:58It was an amicable split. My ex-wife and I are still on good terms.
00:41:01In fact, your ex-wife is present with us today. Is she not?
00:41:05-When was the last time you saw each--? -Objection.
00:41:07This is not family court.
00:41:09We're not here to re-litigate the witness's divorce.
00:41:11-I can't see what purpose this serves. CHUCK: I can.
00:41:15I'll tell you why my brother brought my ex-wife to this hearing.
00:41:18Four thousand miles, she came.
00:41:21Lured by concern for me.
00:41:24What Jimmy's driving at is the last time I saw her, I covered up my illness.
00:41:28I'd been suffering from it for some time.
00:41:31But I went to great lengths to conceal that fact from her.
00:41:36I'm sorry I deceived you, Rebecca.
00:41:41I didn't want you to think less of me.
00:41:46Now Jimmy's outed me in front of you.
00:41:48You know why?
00:41:50To rattle me.
00:41:52He knows I still have...
00:41:55...a lot of feeling for my ex-wife.
00:41:58He's hoping this will break me down.
00:42:01Split me apart at the seams like a murderer confessing...
00:42:04...on an episode of Perry Mason.
00:42:07Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Jimmy.
00:42:12Have I answered your questions to your satisfaction?
00:42:17Do you have anything else?
00:42:21Yeah, I do.
00:42:23Earlier, you talked about other diseases...
00:42:25...physical conditions, you said, so, okay...
00:42:29...if you'd had, I don't know, lung cancer...
00:42:32...would you have told Rebecca then?
00:42:36If that had been the case, maybe. I might have.
00:42:39-So how is this different? COMMITTEE MEMBER: Mr. McGill.
00:42:41-Move it along. -You don't have to answer that.
00:42:44I wanna get down to brass tacks. I wanna be very, very specific here.
00:42:48This illness, what does it feel like?
00:42:50You mentioned it's painful.
00:42:52It is.
00:42:54There's a tightness in my chest...
00:42:55...difficulty breathing...
00:42:57...and pain.
00:42:59Burning pain. The pain spreads everywhere.
00:43:02Sounds horrible. Does it hurt right now?
00:43:05CHUCK: There's always some discomfort, yes.
00:43:08Electricity is everywhere in the modern world.
00:43:11But I very much appreciate the indulgence of the panel...
00:43:14...for their accommodation today.
00:43:16I can handle this fine.
00:43:22Right. So with the lights out, you don't feel them.
00:43:25CHUCK: If the current's not flowing, no.
00:43:27Sorry about the exit signs. I guess they couldn't kill those for you.
00:43:31CHUCK: They're not drawing much current, and they're far away.
00:43:34Intensity drops off with distance per the inverse-square law.
00:43:38Oh, yeah, whoa. Inverse-square. I'm not a physicist.
00:43:41Could you dumb that down a shade for me?
00:43:43The farther away it is...
00:43:45...the stronger the source needs to be to have an effect.
00:43:48JIMMY: Got it. Got it. So if I had a small battery, say...
00:43:51...from a watch, and I got up close to your skin...
00:43:53...you'd know?
00:43:55I would feel it, yes.
00:43:56Can you feel more current coming from any particular direction right now?
00:44:00From that back wall or....?
00:44:03From over there or up through the floor?
00:44:06Can you tell us where the nearest source is right now?
00:44:13Jimmy, do you have something in your pocket?
00:44:18Yes, I do, as a matter of fact.
00:44:25My cell phone.
00:44:26From this distance, you should feel it, and you don't, do you?
00:44:30Mr. McGill, you were warned to leave your electronics outside.
00:44:34It's all right.
00:44:36It's all right.
00:44:38May I?
00:44:45Just as I thought.
00:44:47There's no battery in here.
00:44:48You removed the battery.
00:44:52That's a sorry little trick, isn't it?
00:44:55Yeah, you got me, Chuck. Dead to rights.
00:44:58I removed the battery.
00:45:01-Objection. CHAIRMAN: Sustained.
00:45:03You've taken all the leeway you're getting, Mr. McGill. Wrap it up.
00:45:07God, Jimmy.
00:45:09Don't you know by now this is real?
00:45:11I feel this.
00:45:13It's a physical response to stimuli. It's not a quirk.
00:45:18[CHUCK SIGHS]
00:45:19What do I have to do to prove it to you?
00:45:22I don't know, Chuck.
00:45:24Could you reach into your breast pocket and tell me what's there?
00:45:29What now?
00:45:37JIMMY: Can you tell the court what that was?
00:45:42-A battery. ALLEY: Mr. Chairman.
00:45:44-Please. -You recognize that man?
00:45:45His name is Huell Babineaux. He's on our witness list.
00:45:48You bumped into him in the stairway.
00:45:50He'll testify he planted this fully-charged battery on you...
00:45:53...over an hour and a half ago.
00:45:55-An hour and 43 minutes ago. -An hour and 43 minutes.
00:45:58Thank you, Mr. Babineaux.
00:46:00And you felt nothing.
00:46:02CHUCK: No. It's a trick. It has to be. -Enough is enough.
00:46:04I submit that Mr. McGill's mental illness is a non-issue.
00:46:08If he were schizophrenic, it wouldn't take away--
00:46:10I am not crazy!
00:46:16I am not crazy.
00:46:19I know he swapped those numbers.
00:46:20I knew it was "1216."
00:46:23One after Magna Carta.
00:46:24As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never.
00:46:27Never. I just couldn't prove it.
00:46:30He-- He covered his tracks.
00:46:32He got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him.
00:46:34ALLEY: Mr. McGill. You don't have to-- -You think this is something?
00:46:38You think this is bad? This chicanery?
00:46:41He's done worse.
00:46:42That billboard.
00:46:43Are you telling me a man just happens to fall like that?
00:46:46No. He orchestrated it.
00:46:48Jimmy.
00:46:51He defecated through a sunroof.
00:46:54And I saved him.
00:46:56I shouldn't have. I took him into my own firm.
00:46:59What was I thinking?
00:47:02He'll never change.
00:47:03He'll never change. Ever since he was 9, always the same.
00:47:07Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer.
00:47:10"But not our Jimmy."
00:47:12"Couldn't be precious Jimmy."
00:47:14Stealing them blind.
00:47:17And he gets to be a lawyer?
00:47:19What a sick joke.
00:47:21I should've stopped him when I had the chance.
00:47:24And you-- You have to stop him. You--
00:47:49I apologize.
00:47:53I lost my train of thought.
00:47:59I got carried away.
00:48:04[CLEARS THROAT]
00:48:07Do you have anything else?
00:48:11No.
00:48:12Nothing further.
00:48:18[SIGHS]
00:48:23[ELECTRICITY BUZZING]
00:48:39[♪♪♪]