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The Trolley Problem

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This is an exciting day.

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We are going to tackle the trolley problem.

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Is this a game? I go first. I call blue.

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There's no... No, this is... No.

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This is a thought experiment first introduced by British philosopher Philippa Foot in 1967.

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You are driving a trolley when the brakes fail.

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And on the track ahead of you are five workmen you will run over.

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Now, you can steer to another track, but on that track is one person you'd kill instead of the five.

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What do you do?

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Do we know anything about the people?

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Is one of them an ex-boyfriend or that snooty girl from Rite Aid who was always silently judging my purchases?

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It's like, "Yeah, chicky! A Baby Ruth and birth control,

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I see the irony. Keep a-swiping!"

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You don't know any of the workers.

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That's easy. I switch tracks. Kill one person instead of five.

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This is hard. The only trolley I've been on is James Franco's ironic trolley.

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It travels backwards from his penguin grotto to his garage of adult tricycles.

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Um... kill one and save five.

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Good! But there's many other versions.

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What if you knew one of the people? Does that change the equation?

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What if you're not the driver, you're just a bystander?

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Or let's throw the trolley out altogether.

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Let's say you're a doctor and you can save five patients.

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But you have to kill one healthy person and use his organs to do it.

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-But that's not the same thing. -Why not?

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It's still choosing to kill one person to save five, isn't it?

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Michael. You've been quiet. What do you think about this?

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Well, obviously the dilemma is clear.

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How do you kill all six people?

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I would dangle a sharp blade out the window to slice the neck of the guy on the other track as we smoosh our five main guys.

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-I did the thing again, didn't I? -Yeah. Ten more, buddy.

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People. Good. People... Why is that so hard to remember?

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People... What is it?

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-Good. -Good.

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{\an8}[theme music playing]

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Cool. Later, guys.

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Oh, hey, twerps.

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{\an8}We have an hour before we have to pretend to be tortured by Vicky.

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{\an8}Wanna hang out?

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{\an8}We could work on our forced grins. Check mine out.

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{\an8}[straining] This place is miserable, et cetera.

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{\an8}-That sounds fun, but... -Right?

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{\an8}I'm going to dive into next week's reading. Sorry.

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{\an8}-Jason, do you care to join? -Sure, dawg.

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You're doing extra-credit work?

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What can I say? This class is more fun than I thought.

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{\an8}Eleanor seemed a little suspicious earlier, snooping around.

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{\an8}You didn't tell her about us, did you?

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{\an8}No.

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{\an8}Why are you scared someone will know we're pounding it out?

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{\an8}Because you refer to lovemaking as "pounding it out."

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{\an8}Who cares what people'd think about us being together?

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{\an8}You should talk about this with a friend.

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{\an8}But that person would know we're together.

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{\an8}Right.

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{\an8}You can talk about why you don't want anyone to know we're together.

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{\an8}But that person would know and I don't want anyone to know.

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{\an8}I know.

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{\an8}You should talk to someone about how weird it is you don't want to talk to someone about how we're together.

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How's it going, teach?

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Hmm. Kitchen looks nice and crazy.

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I've been racking my brain for a way to get through to Michael.

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What do you think about writing a Kierkegaard rap musical?

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-I think that's a terrible idea. -Cool.

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Michael won't learn how to be a good person overnight.

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He's not even a person.

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He's a bunch of evil shoved up the butt of an evil mannequin.

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Teaching him to be good, it's like teaching me how to be not hot.

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How would you even do it?

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You'd have me hunch or something and then stand there and say,

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"Gurp. Gurp. Gurp."

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I don't know.

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I can't picture it. I've been hot my whole life.

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Sorry, who is this conversation for again?

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It's for you.

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I believe in you, nerd boy.

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If you can teach me and Jason ethics, you can teach anybody.

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Thanks.

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But definitely a "no" on the rap musical?

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If you really think--

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♪ My name is Kierkegaard And my writing is impeccable ♪

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♪ Check out my teleological suspension Of the ethical ♪

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-No. -No, right?

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[chuckles] It felt like a "no" when I was doing it.

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-Janet? -Hi, there.

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If I were to tell you something personal about myself,

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-you couldn't tell anyone, right? -Right.

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In a way, you're like a therapist?

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Absolutely not. A therapist is a trained medical professional with the ability to absorb and process complex ideas about human emotion.

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I am a vessel containing all of the knowledge in the universe.

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Close enough. Jason and I are sleeping together.

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-Okay. -No one can ever know.

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I wouldn't shag Jason if he were the last man on Earth.

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But, well, he sort of is.

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And I am. Shagging him, I mean.

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I'm losing my mind. Please help me.

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My job is to make your experience here in the afterlife more enjoyable.

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I will try to help you.

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I am going to need some time to read every book ever written about human psychotherapy.

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I've done that, so let's begin. Have a seat.

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Hi. I'm your therapist, Janet.

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[Chidi] I want to chat about your progress.

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In the last homework assignment,

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I asked you to examine the ethics of Les Misérables in which a man steals a loaf of bread to feed his starving family.

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Would you please read your first paragraph?

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"Everyone in this story sucks and belongs in the Bad Place.

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The thief is bad, the officer chasing him is bad, all the whiny prostitutes are bad, plus they're all French, so they're going to the Bad Place automatically."

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Do you see how you're already off-topic?

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Chidi, I've been around a long time. Like, all of it.

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I know for a fact if you steal a loaf of bread, it's a negative 17 points.

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Twenty if it's a baguette, because that makes you more French.

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Okay, sure, but philosophy is about questioning things you take for granted and I don't think you're doing that.

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I mean, "I personally know

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Victor Hugo is in the Bad Place, being tortured.

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He's a real wuss, too.

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If a lava monster even gets near the guy, he's like,

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'Sacrebleu, I peed in m' pants.'"

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I don't know what you want from me. That's exactly what he said.

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Jason's a nice person, but my suitors were always of a certain echelon.

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I used what I call the duke rule, because "duke" is both minimum-acceptable university and rank of nobility.

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You've never dated anyone like Jason before.

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I've dallied below my station.

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I had a fling with a non-famous Hemsworth brother.

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But even Larry Hemsworth had more status than Jason.

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Jason didn't even have a job.

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In a sad way, not in the good, rich way.

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Hi, guys. What are you doing?

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Sitting in a room? That's pretty cool.

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I took your suggestion. I'm talking to Janet about our relationship.

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Actually, it might help if I could hear Jason's side as well.

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No, that'll only slow things down. I'll tell you his side.

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He thinks I have to control everything and he has no voice in this relationship.

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Right, Jason? Good. Now, where were we?

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Just heard that.

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Okay, fine. I'll leave.

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[Chidi] I just don't feel like you're engaging with the material.

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Like with the trolley problem.

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That was just tricky, that's all.

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Why don't you tell me the right answer?

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That's what's so great about the trolley problem, is that there is no right answer.

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[groans]

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This is why everyone hates moral philosophy professors.

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I'm on your side, dude, but he is not wrong.

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Okay. Michael, trust me.

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When it comes to human ethics, I just know more than you.

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I've been studying it my whole life.

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It's just that it's so theoretical.

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I mean, you know, maybe there's a more concrete approach.

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Here. Let's try this.

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Oh, God! Michael, what did you do?

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I made the trolley problem real so we could see how the ethics would actually play out.

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There are five workers on this track and one there.

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Here are the levers to switch the tracks. Make a choice!

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The thing is... Ethically speaking--

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No time, dude! Make a decision!

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Well, it's tricky!

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On the one hand, if you ascribe to a purely utilitarian worldview--

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[brakes squealing]

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Okay. So... what did we learn?

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Chidi?

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Talk it out, buddy.

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What are we thinking?

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He thinks he just killed a bunch of people with a trolley.

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It's just a simulation. I'd never make you kill real people.

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Well, that's reassuring.

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Because some of the parts of the fake people flew into my mouth!

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Michael, can we just go back to the classroom?

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We never left. I'll show you.

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[sighs]

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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See, buddy? None of this was real.

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Well, they're fake people, but their pain is real.

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Does that make sense?

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There have to be stakes or it's just a thought experiment.

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This is awful.

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You specifically asked me if there was a way I could connect with the material more.

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I'm trying, you guys.

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Sorry. You're right. I want to help you understand this.

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Thank you, Chidi.

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So, let's try again.

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[wheels clanking]

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[stammers] I thought maybe we would have a discussion.

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No, the whole point is to play out the scenario in real time.

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Quick, Chidi! What's your decision?

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Okay, I can do this.

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I am choosing to switch tracks, so that way I only kill one person.

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[Michael] Forgot to tell you, this is the scenario where you know one of the people.

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It's your friend Henry there.

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-Chidi! How are you, mate? -Henry! Move!

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Ah! Nice trolley.

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-[Chidi] Move out of the way! -I can't, Chidi.

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-My boots are stuck in the tracks. -Henry, move!

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-Anyway, long time, no-- -Move out of there!

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Wait! [screams]

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Oh, my God!

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[brakes squealing]

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Again, just a simulation.

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An almost impossibly lifelike simulation.

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Would someone's foot really fly off their body like that?

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That was kind of cool.

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Ethically speaking.

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Tahani's confusing.

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She's really smart.

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She's all soft and smooth like a bunch of water balloons.

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But I tell her she's pretty a hundred times a day and she's never said I'm pretty once.

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And how does that make you feel?

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I feel Tahani's embarrassed

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I'm not some scientist who forecloses on banks.

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-I need another session with Janet. -[Jason] It's my turn.

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I have a lot of problems, too.

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Perhaps we could kill two birds with one Janet, as it were.

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How would you feel about giving Jason and me couples therapy?

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I'd feel great.

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Janet? What's happening?

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Unclear. My guess is I'm operating in a way

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I'm not designed for and it's creating a small glitch.

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But if I'm helping you guys, I say,

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"What has one thumb and wants to keep going?

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This not-lady."

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Eh? Eh?

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Okay, so that was trolley problem version number seven.

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Chidi opted to run over five William Shakespeares instead of one Santa Claus.

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As much as I'm enjoying watching random people's heads fly off,

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I think we've taken this trolley thing as far as it can go.

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-You might be right, Eleanor. -Thank you.

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Let's try the doctor one.

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Dude! What the fork?

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[Michael] These five people all need organ transplants or they will die.

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Eleanor's perfectly healthy.

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Chidi, do you want to slice her open and use her organs to save the five sick people?

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Chidi, think about this.

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I'm your hottest friend. No, Tahani.

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I'm your nicest... No, Jason.

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I'm your friend!

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[Chidi] I won't do it.

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As a doctor, I've taken the Hippocratic oath to do no harm.

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Although five people will die,

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I cannot harm one innocent person to save them and forsake my oath.

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It's unethical.

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-Okay, tell their families. -What?

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[girl] Doctor Chidi?

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My daddy needed a heart transplant. Did you save his life?

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He was working, then a really bad man ran him over with a trolley.

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Oh! Come on!

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What? I'm finding this incredibly helpful.

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I'm really starting to get it.

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I know!

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We'll do the one where you're in a boat next to a volcano and you can either save 50 people or one awesome dog or whatever.

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No, no, no.

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Hey! Are you torturing us again?

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What?

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You don't care about learning ethics lessons.

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You're just torturing Chidi again, aren't you?

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-Busted. -What?

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[laughs maniacally]

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I'm sorry.

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Old habits die hard.

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Not as hard as those people you crushed with the trolley, though.

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-Boom! -I'm sorry, is this funny to you?

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Yeah. I thought that was clear from my laughter.

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Oh, come on.

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My bad.

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I'm still on your team, okay?

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I just needed to let off a little steam. [grunts]

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See? Back home, all good.

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No. No, not all good.

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You keep saying we need you or we'll end up getting tortured forever.

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But then, when we do help you out, we still end up getting tortured.

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I'd rather just be tortured than choose it.

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You are no longer welcome in my class.

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Get the fork out!

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But I said, "My bad."

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Out!

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[Eleanor] You okay?

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You've been staring at the second page of this book for an hour.

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When I'm really upset, concentrating on a table of contents helps me calm down.

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It's like a menu, but the food is words.

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Oh. Okay.

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I can't believe I actually thought he wanted to learn from us.

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What he really wanted was to torture me.

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Using the thing I love most in the world.

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Woven belts?

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Oh! Teaching, right.

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I'm sorry about this, Chidi.

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I made him take the classes and I feel a little responsible.

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No, no, it's not your fault.

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Yeah, you're right, it isn't, and no takebacks.

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No, a tiger can't change his stripes.

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This is what he always wanted.

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Me trying desperately to teach him something he never intended to learn so I'd end up miserable with my glasses all smudged up from sweaty forehead stress grease.

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Okay. Gross. Also, I really don't think that's true.

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No? What possible other reason could he have to behave that way?

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Actually, I can think of one.

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Yesterday, Tahani gave us her reasons not to take this relationship public.

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-Tahani, what do you value about Jason? -Well, he's thoughtful.

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Picks flowers and brings them to me.

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Often, they're ones I've just planted, but...

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That's how I know they're fresh.

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He's the least self-aware person I've ever met.

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He has massive amounts of unearned confidence and he's utterly unaware of his own absurdity.

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Therefore, quite good at sex.

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Here's the thing. I'm nice to you and you're mean to me.

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There's something wrong about that, but I can't put my finger on what it is.

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Jason, I genuinely like you but it's hard to change all at once.

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Can you give me a little more time?

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Okay.

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I agree to keep this on the DL for now if you agree to grab my butt in public once a week.

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You can say I sat in gum and you're trying to scrape it off.

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You do sit in a lot of gum.

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[Janet] Aw. I'm happy for you guys.

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[retches]

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[ribbits]

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-[ribbits] -Huh.

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Look, I don't know what to tell you. If Chidi can't take a joke, that's on him.

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Just like all that blood was. [chuckles]

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I can't high-five that!

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No matter how badly I want to.

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Look, this isn't about Chidi not being able to take a joke.

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This is about you.

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You're doing what I used to do. You're pulling an Eleanor.

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Posting my cousin's credit card number on Reddit because she said I looked tired?

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[both chuckle]

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I forgot I did that.

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No. No.

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Pulling an Eleanor in this case is lashing out when you feel like a failure.

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You couldn't hack the classes.

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They made you feel dumb and small, so you took it out on the teacher.

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You think I feel dumb and small?

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I'm an eternal being who can see in nine dimensions.

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I can see from your aura you're about to fart quietly then lie about it.

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And please don't, because I can also see what you ate today.

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Dude, you can bluster and insult all you want.

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Also classic Shellstrop moves, by the way.

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But deep down, you know I'm right.

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Whatever.

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Eventually Chidi will get over it.

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[chuckles] Leaving it up to the other person to be the grown-up.

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Yet another classic Shellstrop move.

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You and I are really very similar.

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What does that say about me?

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Look, bro, it's 100% on you to make this up to him.

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[Michael] I screwed up.

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I'm owning it. I mean, I'm a superior being.

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I ought to act like one. Right?

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So, I really thought about each one of you, and I got you something that will make you happy.

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I call them "opposite tortures."

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-Do you mean "presents"? -That's better. Thank you.

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Tahani, here's yours.

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Holy mama!

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Is this a diamond?

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Yeah. Honestly, I don't get the appeal.

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Diamonds are literally carbon molecules lined up in the most boring way.

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They're worthless space garbage.

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What you're holding right now, that's basically meteorite poop.

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And I have the biggest piece!

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Eleanor, I had Janet make you a never-ending shrimp dispensary.

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[Eleanor gasps]

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[Michael laughs]

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[exclaims loudly]

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This is the dream.

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-It is? -Yeah.

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Jason, here you go.

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[gasps] Pikachu! Guys, it's Pikachu!

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This is awesome.

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Aw, man.

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And, finally, Chidi.

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You were a tough nut to crack, but I think I figured it out.

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This is a replica of a lost notebook from the desk of Immanuel Kant.

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It contains never-before-seen thoughts and musings and several... crude, erotic doodles.

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Interesting guy, actually.

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The point is no one on Earth has ever seen this, except for you.

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Cool.

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This isn't an apology. It's a bribe and I'm not interested.

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Yeah, we can't be bought!

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What do you want from me, man?

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You want me to give you a golden nameplate for your office?

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Or you want a diamond bigger than Tahani's?

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No! Then this would be worthless.

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I don't want anything.

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Oh... Okay. I get it.

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I get it. You want me to admit I was wrong.

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You want me to say, "Chidi, I'm so sorry, because I didn't understand human ethics and you do.

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It made me feel insecure and I lashed out.

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And please help me, because I feel so, so lost and vulnerable."

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Yes.

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Oh, Chidi, I'm so sorry.

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I didn't understand human ethics and you do.

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And it made me feel insecure and I lashed out.

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And I really need your help, because I feel so lost and vulnerable.

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Have a seat.

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[sniffles]

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Whoo!

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Nobody try "mystery flavor."

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It's white chocolate and it is nasty.

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Listen, we just wanted to thank you for all of your help.

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{\an8}Our relationship's grown so much stronger over the past few weeks

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{\an8}and we owe it all to you.

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{\an8}Congratulations. I am very happy for the both of you.

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{\an8}[rumbling and crashing]

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{\an8}Okay, bye!

00:21:15

{\an8}Hi, there.

00:21:16

{\an8}What's happening? What's wrong?

00:21:18

{\an8}I am wrong. I can't stop glitching. I don't know why and it's getting worse.

00:21:22

{\an8}I fear this neighborhood is in danger of total collapse.

00:21:26

So that's the main thing. How are you?